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Post by ^Glyndwr^ on Sun 22 Mar 2009, 01:10

I am posting a link to a post on .org by Tomisama that may explain how to meet each other in the same online battle list.

http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2169289&postcount=10

Hope this helps. Wink

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Post by BHCKingWarman88 on Sun 22 Mar 2009, 14:05

Hmmmm,intersting indeed!

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Post by ^Glyndwr^ on Fri 27 Mar 2009, 23:12

Brilliant!!! Tonight I am unable to connect to Steam Servers. Evil or Very Mad

The error message I keep getting....Steam is unable to connect to the Servers. Rolling Eyes

This is worse than Gamespy. Gah!! Never had any problems connecting with them.

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Post by ^HUN^ on Fri 27 Mar 2009, 23:55

I said it was far too early for people to rave over. From reading both SP and MP reports I don't see anything different to previous titles .... bugs, CTD, imbalance, lag and now connection errors. Sounds like another taste of chicken.
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Post by ^Glyndwr^ on Sat 28 Mar 2009, 17:56

Now Steam has auto updated my game (the patch) I am in the same boat as others who have posted on .org. Marcus and Tomisama cannot join my hosted games or me join theirs. Rolling Eyes
But strangly enough Eusabius86 can join and he is in the USA the same as Tomisama.

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Post by ^HUN^ on Sat 28 Mar 2009, 20:26

Good old Total War eh?
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Post by ^Glyndwr^ on Tue 31 Mar 2009, 00:30

Another patch update today.
All the RED text games you see are now different version to mine. GAH!!!
But I still cant join ANY GAMES or players join mine


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Post by ^Tomisama^ on Tue 31 Mar 2009, 02:54

I know this is totally frustrating.

But number one, it is not the game. I played 4v4s online all day Sunday with no problems.

I had 40 Clan Teams starting their Clan Wars matches this weekend, with no report of problems.

Can host a multiplayer game, you vs. CPU players?

Try creating your own 4v4 with CPU mates and opponents.
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Post by ^Glyndwr^ on Tue 31 Mar 2009, 18:00

^Kazemoto^ wrote:Can host a multiplayer game, you vs. CPU players?

Try creating your own 4v4 with CPU mates and opponents.

Up date:...Today I tried as you suggested.

I hosted a 4 v 4 with 7 AI players.
The game ran ok but a bit laggy. Very Happy

Hmmmm...seems it was a firewall problem.

I must now try to host and join other MP games to be certain it is working.

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Post by ^Glyndwr^ on Tue 31 Mar 2009, 23:50

Still the same. Marcus cant join my hosted games and I cant join his.
No response from host.

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Post by ^Tomisama^ on Wed 01 Apr 2009, 00:08

I hosted a 4 v 4 with 7 AI players.
The game ran ok but a bit laggy. Very Happy

Than is exactly what I get, a bit laggy (all the CPUs cause the load).

That means your computer is fine.

The game is fine, your computer is fine.

Your firewall should be "up". If you have a router involved, it should "not" have DMZ on.

There should not be any need to do anything special to play and host these games.

Now there may be exceptions with particular equipment, but my fire wall is up and I have no special settings engaged on my router (which I always use to have, to be able to host).

What do you have in the way of routers, modems, and internet service?

Because thats where the problem lies.
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Post by ^Glyndwr^ on Wed 01 Apr 2009, 15:20

^Kazemoto^ wrote:
^Glyndwr^ wrote:I hosted a 4 v 4 with 7 AI players.
The game ran ok but a bit laggy. Very Happy

Than is exactly what I get, a bit laggy (all the CPUs cause the load).

That means your computer is fine.

The game is fine, your computer is fine.
This only proves the pc and game run ok. No proof that anyone was able to join game (as in MP). Just me and 7 AI players playing a multi player game on my pc with my connection.
This has previously been proven by playing single player games.

^Kazemoto^ wrote: Your firewall should be "up". If you have a router involved, it should "not" have DMZ on.

There should not be any need to do anything special to play and host these games.
Again, proven when Marcus and I were able to play two MP games with no problems with linking up together.
It is only since the game auto updated (patched) that I have had this not being able to join or host a game.

^Kazemoto^ wrote:Now there may be exceptions with particular equipment, but my fire wall is up and I have no special settings engaged on my router (which I always use to have, to be able to host).

What do you have in the way of routers, modems, and internet service?

Because thats where the problem lies.
There has been absolutely no change to my system (router and/or ISP) since the time we were able to play MP so I fail to see how...Because thats where the problem lies

I am using... BT Hub router..ethernet hard wired connection..BT Broadband (8MB).
Firewalls are set to allow games and necessary connections (trusted zones), other pc's can 'see' my pc.
More than enough to connect and run my games.
Perhaps I should consider uninstalling McAfee and use ZoneAlarm. Idea Idea

Strangely enough, Marcus can host games and other players can see and join them. I saw the game but couldn't join. Rolling Eyes
Marcus even 'invited' me to try to stop others joining so quickly.

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Post by ^Tomisama^ on Thu 02 Apr 2009, 00:40

I tired but I will try to explain the best I can.

I am an engineer, and work with complex computer systems and programs all the time for a living.

Playing 4v4 with CPU teams proves your computer is more than capable of handling the program, thatís all.

My statement was that the Game is Fine, and your Computer is Fine.

The only thing left is the connection to the other players.

And just because you didnít change anything, does not mean that something has not changed.

And that the change may or may not have anything to do with the patch, the timing may simply be coincidental.

I was trying to take you through a step by step evaluation of the system, exploring and eliminating one thing at a time.
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Post by ^Tomisama^ on Thu 02 Apr 2009, 11:53

You have probably been here, but I thought it wouldn't hurt to post the link.

Steam - Troubleshooting Network Connectivity

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=1456-EUDN-2493

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Post by ^Glyndwr^ on Thu 02 Apr 2009, 11:55

I understand and appreciate the time and help that you have offered. i was not being 'critical' with my replies. Sometimes the typed words do not come across as the spoken word would. No offence is meant on my part.

I will post more details when I return. Must dash.

Read your reply posted as I was typing. Smile

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Post by ^Glyndwr^ on Thu 02 Apr 2009, 13:50

Back..... Wink

Thanks for the link . Yes I have been there too.

I am putting my problem down to a Firewall issue (with McAfee).

McAfee is the program pre-installed on this pc. For some unknown reason when I select... Open Security Centre...nothing happens. Even the other options have the same effect.
It is as if McAfee is not working. Shocked

I was going to uninstall it and install ZoneAlarm in its place.
Cannot uninstall it.
No uninstall option in the program and in Control Panel>Add/Remove program I get a message...program appears to be uninstalled or moved.

When I try to install ZoneAlarm it gives me a message that McAfee is already installed and there would be conflicts between the two and to uninstall it first then closes ZA install window.

So, I cannot install ZA, cannot uninstall McAfee and cannot alter Firewall settings in McAfee. Evil or Very Mad

I will contact McAfee tech support and see what they come up with. Watch this space. gathering

Update......
I was given a Virtual Tech Support program to download and install.

Ran the program and it found 35 missing/corrupted files.
They could not all be replaced/repaired.

Now successfully uninstalled McAfee. Smile

ZoneAlarm installed and configured. Just need to run a test with someone online in MP.

Let us hope this is the end of my Host/Join games problem. drunken

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Post by ^Glyndwr^ on Thu 02 Apr 2009, 20:14

Logged on to the game, selected Quick Land Battle, Steam found me an opponent. A siege No No . Played it and won so was pleased with joining a land battle. Will hopefully test a connection later this evening with Marcus.

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Post by ^Glyndwr^ on Sat 04 Apr 2009, 00:45

Where to go from here??????

We still can't join each others games whoever hosts.

Port settings and firewalls have been double checked.

Update.....

As a further test, selected Quick Land Battle and played two games with players I had never heard of.
Connected first time each time. So my connections for the game must be ok.
Why does Steam always seem to pick a Siege for this option. Rolling Eyes


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Post by ^Tomisama^ on Sat 04 Apr 2009, 03:50

Looking forward to further testing alien I mean games.
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Post by ^HUN^ on Sat 04 Apr 2009, 20:54

Sounds very entertaining........... Sleep
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Post by ^Glyndwr^ on Sun 19 Apr 2009, 01:48

Tonight I successfully joined a 2 v 2 MP game against ArmaEtLorica clan members. A close defeat but my ally had routed and left the game. Don't remember or know who he was.
Failed to join two other games earlier though. Sad

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Post by ^Glyndwr^ on Sat 25 Apr 2009, 00:51

Still in the same position...Marcus and I are still unable to join each others hosted games.

This means we are unable to play as team mates. Evil or Very Mad

I do not intend playing only Quick Battles just for the sake of playing this game online.
The battles that I have been able to join, four to date, just doesn't warrant the time spent sitting at the pc every evening hoping for a game connection.

From the technical aspect.......today I spent one and a half hours with BT Tech Support using Remote Assistance and they could find no reason why I am unable to link up with others. They carried out various checks.
All my pc and router settings are judged as being correct for what I want to do.

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Post by ^Glyndwr^ on Fri 01 May 2009, 23:29

Latest update.......

I am hoping my problems are solved.

Tonight I was able to join a 4v4 MP game on the UK server with players I know, at least two of them. One from USA and one from Canada.

Had another update downloaded and installed. Now on V1.2.

Two good things.......we now have the players names on the faction, when you mouse-over the units and the ingame chat has different colours. Allie/Enemy.

Don't know how many more changes there are yet, still got to play the game a bit more often.

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Post by ^Glyndwr^ on Wed 13 May 2009, 13:58

^Glyndwr^ wrote:Latest update.......

I am hoping my problems are solved.

Tonight I was able to join a 4v4 MP game on the UK server with players I know, at least two of them. One from USA and one from Canada.

Still having the same hassle.

It appears I can only join random mp games.
Have failed to join friends games even when invited by them. Get a message something like ...Server not responding.

Last night I only managed to play ONE game out of SEVEN ATTEMPTS and that was with players I don't even know.
It is no fun just clicking on any old game and hoping for the best.

^Glyndwr^ wrote:Two good things.......we now have the players names on the faction unit card when you mouse-over the units and, the ingame chat has different colours. Ally/Enemy.

But the players name on the unit cards do not show in the replays. So you don't know who was playing with which faction in the replay. Shocked

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Post by ^Glyndwr^ on Fri 22 May 2009, 00:13

Is there any point in carrying on trying to get a few games?

It seems I am doomed to be a non regular player. Rolling Eyes

Marcus and I still cannot join each others game.

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